Orientalism

Compare book prices at www.BookkooB.co.uk
BookkooB : Cheap books, whichever way you look at it.
Cover of Orientalism by Edward W. Said 0141187425title:

Orientalism: Western Conceptions of the Orient (Penguin Modern Classics)

author:Edward W. Said
format:Paperback Buy Orientalism Now
publisher:Penguin Classics
released:August 28, 2003
isbn:0141187425
isbn-13:9780141187426
storeavailabilityitem pricedelivered 
Amazon UK    
The Hut    
Sprint Books    
Blackwells    
WH Smith (collect in store)    
Base    
The Book Place    
WH Smith    
Pick a Book    
Global Investor    
Waterstones    
The Book People    
zavvi    
Play.com    
Another Bookshop    
History Bookshop    
Tesco Books    
BookFellas    
Foyles    
Samedaybooks    

Above you will see price and availability details for Orientalism: Western Conceptions of the Orient by Edward W. Said from the leading UK book stores.

To allow you to quickly compare prices, the stores are arranged in order of delivered price, cheapest first. Click on a store name to buy this book or to view further details.

Books Related to Orientalism Edward W. Said - ISBN: 0141187425

View other editions of Orientalism.
View books by Edward W. Said.

Customer Reviews

Utter Drivel - Rated 1/5
I do not know how Americans view Islam but as an Englishman/European it seems to me that Said's views are so much poppycock.To make a couple of points in a limited space.

Of course we have a stereotypical view of Islam just as Islam has a stereotypical view of us - and these views are largely hostile .So what? For century after century Islam was an enormous threat to what might loosely be called Christendom. It shaped every aspect of European history and was directly responsible for Europes colonial empires. Up till around 1750 they were a dangerous direct competitor to our interests.Gibbon writing in the 1780s was the first to think that the danger had passed .On a local scale the threat lasted even longer - Barbary pirates ravaged the coast of England up till the 1830s carting off coastal villages into slavery and at even later dates on the west coast of Ireland and that was at the height of the British Empire ! .By a strange inversion left wing academics and Said have made Europeans and Americans see these things entirely from the point of view of Islam ie as uniquely a problem of western imperialism largely ignoring about a thousand years of history.

Common sense would suggest that as our knowledge of these societies grew in the 19th century so stereotypes would break down.Said says the opposite - they served to reinforce them. Common Sense is right - stereotypes did break down.He makes much of the fact that as a boy he saw these european pictures of the east and they bore no relation to the societies he knew.It never seems to occur to him that as a Palestinian/American he might not be seeing these pictures as a European sees them and a 19th century European at that. 19th century Europeans , for whom these pictures were intended , were preoccupied with the dehumanising and mechanising aspects of industrial society ,their own society, and used other societies to show up these concerns.European attitudes were complex and contradictory but they were not attempting to give an accurate view of oriental society as their viewers well understood. When Gauguin paints a picture of a naked Tahitian girl we dont think he is trying to justify French imperialism nor do we think that he is saying much about Tahiti. Naked Tahitian girls did not buy his paintings. He was saying a great deal however about 19th century France with its rigid stifling conventions compared with the natural grace of a simpler more primitive world. Said is himself guilty of a kind of mental colonialism.He assumes that he understands what these pictures are about and is going to tell us what they mean. But he does not understand them because he does not understand 19th century Europe and he gets it wrong.

Finally Said does not seem to understand that the British did not need to justify their oriental empire by regarding other societies as inferior and their rule as necessary to bring enlightenment to the natives. He assumes that, like the Roman Empire, it was acquired through conscious effort.Nothing could be further from the truth. The British Empire in India was acquired in a haphazard way through chance .They thought that as it had been delivered into their hands by fate they had as much right to be there as their Moghul predecessors. Early British colonialists simply adopted the customs of the dominant Muslim culture which they much admired.- even to the point of practising polygamy.It was only after the Indian mutiny in the late Victorian period when the British were forbidden to intermarry with the natives that they turned into a caste and thought that they had to justify their presence in the country by adopting spurious notions of superiority.

In short western attitudes to the orient mirror by and large oriental attitudes to the west - often confusing and contradictory. Americas particular support for Israel owes much to a particular sense of their own identity and is not shared by European countries. Said's thesis is in my view nonsense..


Said too much..? - Rated 2/5
Drawing upon the work of Michel Foucault, Edward Said claims that Western ideas of the `Orient' are not based upon objective facts but are created through academic and cultural `discourses' which serve to promote Western imperialism - often despite `liberal' intentions.

This mythical `East' is the antithesis of the West, a negative or inversion of the Occident, and is used to define both in binary opposition to each other and to facilitate the political and domination of the East.

However in order to demonstrate the existence of this `Orientalism' Said falls back on an equally stereotypical and monolithic `West' which he constructs entirely from the carefully selected writings of a handful of 19th Century middle-class, white, male English and French authors.

This tactic not only ignores or misrepresents a large body of Western authors sympathetic to the East and sensitive to differences within it, but also glosses over Western heterogenities of class, race, sex, religion and generation in order to manufacture a homogenous `Occident' devoid of differences.

Said is as guilty of *Occidentalism* as those he criticises are of *Orientalism*.

Said fails to provide any evidence that the `West' defines itself in binary opposition to a mythical `East' that Western scholars have created for just this purpose, he simply *manufactures* the kind of `West' necessary to explain the `East' that he himself has constructed from a very limited number of Western texts about the `Orient'.

He has created his own mythical `East' and `West' from a small number of secondary sources which he then projects onto others and thinks he has *discovered* rather than *invented*.


Well past its sell-by date - Rated 1/5
Books, however good or bad they are, can gather a momentum of their own once they become best-sellers. So it is with Orientalism. People will continue to read it because so many have read it. All the same it is time to touch base and say loud and clear that this is a very bad book. It is full of unjustified vitriol against people Said does not like. It is completely unscholarly in that Said has clearly not read some of the material about which he offers opinions. It is unreliable in that he gets many important facts wrong. It is animated by the idea that anyone who doesn't have the same political opinions as Said cannot possibly have anything useful to say. Finally, and perhaps worst of all, Said showed himself to be impervious to criticism and did not even both to correct clearly established errors. This is a work of great arrogance. The case for all of these points is made by Robert Irwin in For Lust of Knowing (2006). Anyone reading Said's book must also read Irwin if they want to have a balanced view.


An utterly outstanding book that demands reading - Rated 5/5
Few works are more deserving of the 'Modern Classic' label that Penguin has given this book. Perhaps it is only after nearly twenty year since its first publication that we are able to appreciate the prophetic and uniquely influential nature of Said's insights into the roots of the 'West's' antagonism towards the 'Orient'. For what is, in effect, little more than a book of literary criticism, the ramifications for all areas of scholarly research and investigation are remarkable. On a personal level it is a book that has profoundly affected both my political and academic outlook and forced a re-evaluation of my attitudes (and not just towards the Middle-East) and, more significantly, the underlying deceits or conspiracies of history on which they are founded. I urge every person in a position of power to study this canonical work. That it is hard reading does not detract from but adds to the power of the work; at every moment Said's intimidating (but inspiringly humanistic and humane) scholarship is in evidence and one can only marvel at his analytical dexterity. Those who see the book as repetative and hypocritically reductive have failed to grasp the true substance which is in the criticism and not primarily in the conclusions which are, for the most part, self-evident, as Said himself declares from the outset.
There will, I am sure, continue be numerous wilful misreadings of 'Orientalism' and that it continues to provoke such controversy is a testament to its brilliance. Ignore them and read it.


Thick book, little substance - Rated 2/5
It is easy to become acquainted with Said's overall perspective. He merely argues, in the manner of Foucault, that what Westerners call the "Orient" is little more than the totality of the discourses the West has produced in order to conceive of it. Inherent in the text, it would seem to me, is an ironic acceptance of the West as the 'norm' by which the Orient is measured. Nevertheless his Preface to the 2003 edition is marvellous and thought-provoking. He shows that he is capable of understanding the limitations of academia when it comes to analysing rigorous topics on the ground. An ostentatiously thick book, however, which contains dissapointingly little by way of ARGUMENT, as opposed to academical detail.

Click here to return to the price comparison table

search for books

similar books

Culture and Imperialism The Wretched of the Earth Covering Islam Imagined Communities Location of Culture RC Black Skin, White Masks The Empire Writes Back Power, Politics and Culture Beginning Postcolonialism Out of Place

bestselling books


compare other prices

Cheap DVDs at dvdspot
Cheap Games at playspot

quick links

subject directory : Biographies, Business, Children's, Fiction, Food & Drink, Health, History, Home & Garden, Horror, Humor, Religion, Science Fiction, Society, Sports, Travel, other subjects.

information pages : About BookkooB, Release Dates, Bookmarklet, Disclaimer, Privacy Policy. Compare Book Prices.